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27-02-2005, 04:04 PM
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I just seen that Pocket racer have just updated their website and that there will be an Australian Championship, SA,VIC, & QLD anyone thinking of going in it. the rules(on webstie) seem fair at this stage of the PB scene.
Im not trying to promote them as a dealer as we all buy parts that suit of budgets/perofrmance /riding styles anyway,but i also noticed they have updated their catalogue/prices too.
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27-02-2005, 06:50 PM
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They made a brief announcement about the Championships at the track last night, and I checked out the details on the Website today also.
I reckon they have got it off on the right foot so far - Simple regs, controlled fuel and tyres and 2 classes of bikes (with what I feel is fair in the modifications allowed - That is, plenty allowed but nothing radical).
Pity NSW are not in there as it will be difficult for most to compete in all States, but from here in Qld, NSW would have been an easy one and Vic could possibly done at a squeeze, but Adelaide is just little bit 2 far away.
Anyway, I'm interested to see what unfolds and I'm sure as it does there will be groups getting together to pool resources and costs to make it to the events if they can.
It's another positive move toward the ongoing future of PB racing - so it's all good!
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27-02-2005, 08:53 PM
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yeh, the mentioned it at drivers briefing..anyone up here on the coast who wants to go..they will ship your bike there for free | 
27-02-2005, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 00RVR I just seen that Pocket racer have just updated their website and that there will be an Australian Championship, SA,VIC, & QLD anyone thinking of going in it. the rules(on webstie) seem fair at this stage of the PB scene.
Im not trying to promote them as a dealer as we all buy parts that suit of budgets/perofrmance /riding styles anyway,but i also noticed they have updated their catalogue/prices too. | I have just read the whole race series page and frankly I am not the only one who would feel that this is once again an attempt to control the sport from a single entity!!!!! There is a good reason NSW would not be included we wont have any part of an unfair ruling body with a vested interest in controling the series blah you can have it!!!!
The whole page is a very smart marketing ploy and it shouts fairness and we want to keep it affordable constantly, and the words sound sincere but read deeper and it screams we want you to buy our parts only and our tyres only and this is ludacris!!!! (a wet weather tyre for road racing you have got to be F&*%ing kidding me!!!!! and who wants to race in the rain quite frankly if you think the wets are anygood in the rain go try them this is mad!!!!) I will tell you this it is a great idea and these guys are great marketeers that cant deliver!!! I'm sorry but where are the headkits where are the parts???? I'm being called daily and supplying QLD racers daily (thanks "pocket bike gods" for not being able to deliver we are supplying the coast dont worry) I would love to market like this but find it hard to say we have somthing we just know it is not here!!!! I dont want to get of track this is a swift response to the anouncement that we are trying to help organise a national race series well we will but it will be a real series and it will...... I'm not saying another word cause I am sick of being gazumped by liers who like to put it on theyre website but dont deliver!!!! for Months!!!!
I would also like to put it to you that these same poeple that say that the karting world has been ruined had a hand in it !!!!!!! Why else are they on the cover of the karting associations handbook you are being fooled by a wolf in sheeps clothing and I hope it doesnt come back to bite you all!!!! I am going to keep on doing what we are doing and that is being honest to the public, cause if we wouldnt you would all still be paying $2000 for an aircooled bike and look at the pricing now!!! thank you OZscoot , Rinki dink , Carterrace for setting realistic pricing that the pocket bike gods have got to match or be left out!!! What is trying to be said here is that an Italian bike is going to be ruled out of contension, if you think you are going to beat euro bikes on the same tyres you are being fooled by a group who just cant get the rights to sell them so ban them they will!!! and by the way the 50cc bikes being mentioned are by far the best bike to ever come out of China and they are easily modified to run 15hp reliably and out handle and perform the B1 copies that are just over stocked by the gods, this is why they dont want to run the the 50cc bikes!!! And they are the best thing since fried rice out of that country but you wont be allowed to race em cause god said so??? CRAP!!!!!!! We have them coming in and when you guys try em you will be so mad at the pocket Gods for keeping you in the dark I promise you!!!!!!! It is propaganda and for the most part it will work as blindly the masses will follow, there are people out there that see thru this and will protest it fiercly( good for you). this is an attempt to firmly place a foot in the market place because they know that as soon as we get the liscencing done and all tracks are covered then they will be known as the guys that started it but couldnt keep up!!!!!! I commend Pocket Racer for theyre efforts or trying to make a bundle on the sport as it has had a rollon affect of bringing this great sport to fruition up there but this is were it gets a little fuzzy I am sorry but I dont believe a word of it and if it is monoplolised by one retailer then god help us all and the sport!!!
One thing that I must say is congratulations to the guys that spoke up in here and out there on the track as they listened and lifted theyre game just dont let em go backwards keep on em and make it better for yourselves, remember it is you the customer that ultimatly dictates the way things should be if an operator doesnt listen then as a whole boycott the race day for just one week I promise they will be ready to negotiate after the register is $4000 lighter that week.
I cant say anymore I am just so fed up with it.
Hope there are enough of you that realise the truth and follow your heart and gut feelings.
Sincerly
Mark
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28-02-2005, 03:34 AM
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I know exactly where you're comming from Mark. I dont want to winge too much as they seem to at least have tried to make some sort of an effort but........
They say they want too keep it fair and simple and affordable and yet in the same breath they go on to say with regard to the so called stock class that head kits,piston windowing and performance reed cages are allowed?
Why would they permit these expensive high performance mods in a stock class instead of a modified class where they belong for guys who can afford it if they are interested in keeping things simple and fair? My guess is that if you want to be competitive in a ''so called''stock class then you will be forced to spend more dollars and buy some expensive upgrades that they just so happen to sell. In other words it's fair and legal as long as the the guys who make the rules make the money.
No prizes for guessing what motivated these rules. Look I know that there are heaps of the same style engines that vary greatly in capacity and performance but it is so simple and a hell of a lot cheaper to upgrade your STOCK engine to the most powerfull STOCK engine by simply changing the barrel+piston+rings with very affordable STOCK parts and still have a STOCK engine to race in a STOCK class. It's that easy.
I just hope that if these guys are going to be ''it'' in QLD as far as a governing body goes that common sense and fair play at least eventually win the day.
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28-02-2005, 09:16 AM
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I dont see anyone else puting the time and money into organising anyhting like this ? :?
Sounds like Pocketracer could hand out free $50 notes and you guys would call - counterfeit
The mods allowed for the stock class seem reasonable to me (just) , if you can really afford to go to 2 interstate rounds of racing then you can afford these "expensive" mods.
We are talking a few hundred bucks anyway. Plus throwing money it doesn't nesesarily make it fast or give the rider more ability.
I'll put my stock reed cage and carby up against a 4 petal/walbro setup any day.
Any takers ?
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28-02-2005, 09:51 AM
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Hi Stocky, yes they are the only guys at the moment attempting anything like this and I honestly take my hat off to them for doing so as I can appreciate the time and effort involved and they have pretty well got it right.
But because they are the only ones and we might actually end up with them running the whole racing scene in QLD these rules need to be subject to public opinion and the guys there need to be open minded enough to at least consider these legitamate concerns.
A few hundred bucks is a lot of money to most people and there wouldn't be much point in buying or selling performance parts if they didn't give an advantage over the stock parts.
All I am saying is let stock races be for stock bikes and let the guys who choose to mod their bikes race in a mod class, simple, and like I said this is easily done.
Anyhow mate, when are ya coming to Bundy?
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28-02-2005, 02:41 PM
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Oh , don't get me wrong I'm not saying they have it perfect but it's not a bad start.
I don't think they'll run the whole sport, the insurance/licence issues will take care of that.
The other problem is , where do you draw the line for "STOCK"
Personally I'd say "must apear stock" , no head kits, no 4 petal reeds, stock carbies etc, BUT do what you want to them. except max 44mm bore 33mm stroke or what ever.
You have to leave the internals open at the moment becuase there is too much variation in the performance of different motors.
If you restict the reed block to standard then there is only so much power you can make.
You also have to take into account that for the first year you'd be mad to exclude the guys with performance gear ?
I'm sure in the long run there will be a "stock" class.
I'd like to come down to race this Sunday, I have a prior engagement that rules out 3 of us (4 bikes) so it's a pain in the ***. I think I'll make the fortnight after. I'd like to make a weekend out of it. Come down and practice on the Sat , stay over night, race Sun. What do you recon ?
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28-02-2005, 02:52 PM
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Yep I pretty much agree with you, and what you say about engines at least appearing to look stock etc... makes a lot of sense to.
Definitely make a weekend out of it by having a practice on the Saturday.
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28-02-2005, 10:58 PM
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For F#%k sake.
Criticism should be constructive and well thought out without emotion.
If your going to blow up about how bad things are, then please detail the plans you have for some alternative to this?
Someone, somewhere, please???
I am sick of reading all the constant bitching, but hearing nothing about what people are doing to try to fix it.
There are many cries of - we will run it ourselves in NSW - sure this is great. Share your plans with us?
Tracks available soon? Tell us?
Because all I hear is complaining about the way things are without anything being added to the equation.
The fact that you cant write a single post in here that mentions a reseller of poket bikes without the compulsary ( it seems ) disclaimer that your not associated with them just shows you how bad things have become in here.
and the freaken "sport" hasnt event really started yet!!
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