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Old 01-11-2009, 10:55 AM
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I have a 49cc bike, (single gear) and it keeps stalling on me. I can get it started no problem but once the throttle is opend for a few seconds it shuts down. Im thinking my spark plug is off time or something but its fairly new and looks fine. Anyone help??
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Welcome to the forums. Do you have any pictures of your bike? Could be any one of about a hundred bikes ....

Are you trying to go WOT (Wide Open Throttle) with the bike already, or just giving it enough to get it rolling? brand-new bikes need some "break-in" time before you can run WOT .....

After the bike starts and warms up, are you remembering to flip the choke lever down (no choke) to ride? The choke lever is directly behind the petcock on the right side of the bike, the little lever.
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Hey, you seem smart. and im noob, haha.
I have a bike thats also doing the same thing, starts fine, but when you what i like to call fang it. It stalls. Ive tried cleaning out the carb but it didnt seem to do anything. ive made sure the spark plug is sparking by testing it on the body and it is (its like one of those crappy im asuming original ones with only a code on it). the cylinder isnt leaking at least i dont think so.
Any sugestions? should i buy a NGK plug would that possibly fix it or could it be something else? thanks in advance!
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theres something in you jet.
take your bowl off, unscrew that little gold looking shaft that runs down the center of the carbie and blow it out. then put it all back together.
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I have cleaned my jet and its still doing it, can it be anything else?
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There are probably still bits of plastic in the tank or petcock. Your starving for fuel. The fuel can`t keep up in the bowl at WOT. That meens there is a restriction.
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There could be gunk in your carburetor from the manufacturer, It could also be your spark plug, or you are not taking the choke off before driving it after warming it up,
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I do know how to use a choke, Im pretty shure now that its over heating. The only gear it has is a pretty high ratio so the engine is working pretty hard to get it going. Thanks anyways
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lol @ overheating, I doubt it.

Firstly, how old/new is the bike? Still waiting on what type.

Anyway, with my first CAG pocket bike I did the following:

1. Got it home, filled with high quality fuel and synthetic 2 stroke oil mixture, went somewhere away from life and started it up, let it idol for 10 minutes (just idle, NO throttle).

2. Took the bike apart, took the stock fuel filter and threw it out (plastic bit of crap), replaced it with a metal filter that has replacable inserts. Took the fuel line, and squeaze clamps, threw them as well, installed new fuel injection fuel line with screw-close clamps.

3. Emptied the fuel tank an it's floating shreds of plastic, and flushed it with metho to get rid of any extra floaties in there before re-filling with 5 litres of high-grade synthetic 2 stroke mix.

4. Took the bike for a varied throttle ride (going from enough throttle to just start moving, to about 80% throttle, to about 50% throttle, to about 70% throttle, to about 30%, to about 60%, to about 40%, to about 80%), giving the bike a few minutes on each of the throttle stages.

This part is probably fairly important for longativity of an Internal Combustion engine, to vary the throttle around a bit, but not ever at 100% throttle during the run-in of the engine.

I ran a full tank of fuel through my bike doing this.

5. At this point, removed the stock spark plug, binned it, and fitted a quality NGK plug.

6. Borrowed a stand, and started tuning my bike's carby (get the carby handbook linked in here, follow it).

7. At this point, I repeated step 4's engine run-in, just to test and see how the carby tune went, my bike was almost perfectly setup from the box, throttle responce was vastly improved during the 3rd tank-testing after tinkering with the throttle though.

8. It was time! For this one, I actually had my bike at a motorsport racing event as my transport from campsite to toilet block and food stalls, but I decided it was time to give it WOT.

Took it to a long (about 1km) straight, started it up, let it warm up for 5 minutes so the engine was at operating temp, gave it a couple of quick throttle-flicks, then I slowly wound it open, until I could not wind it anymore. I held it there for about 90 seconds, released, and throttled again, and it kept getting faster and faster and faster (until one of the police patrolling the camping area decided to spoil my fun). She got up to about 60km/h, but was smooth, responsive, and very clean.

My bike barely blows smoke, and has a low-ish idle, but has never had stalling issues.

Remeber, 2-stroke engines are basic as, and anytime there is a problem it will be related to 1 of 2 things, fuel or spark.

For stalling, it's either getting no spark (dies), or it's getting no fuel (dies) or it gets too much fuel (sputters for a sec and dies).

For no spark, check coil, make sure it's working, check leads, make sure there is no issues (mine needed replacing, the connector pulled off). Check spark plug (the condition of the spark plug is critical in telling you fuel mixture, health of motor, etc, this is the same with cars.

For fuel-related issues, pull the plug out, check the cylinder for moisture, pull the starter a few times, if your getting a fine mistcoming out of the plug-hole without any throttle, chances are it's running very rich, and if you WOT the throttle and keep pulling the starter cord,it will spray fuel/oil mix everywhere (it's drowning the plug, and can not spark.

If your getting not-noticable fuel coming out of the spark plug hole when pulling the starter, and there is no throttle (but it idles alright) you might have a leaning out issue (the spark plug would be white-looking if this is the case as well).

My personal advice, read this post a couple of times, have a drink or 2, read it again, and goforth and tackle that 2-stroke engine and see how you go.

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