Go Back   Pocket Bike Forum > Pocket Bike Forums > Pocket Bikes Discussion

Register Today!
» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
» Sponsored Links
» Stats
Members: 11,670
Threads: 11,740
Posts: 96,885
Top Poster: RD RACING (3,042)
Welcome to our newest member, jepaterno
» Recent Threads
2012 Australian...
07-08-2011 09:11 PM
Last post by cqminimoto
11-02-2012 07:46 AM
SQ Pro Cag for sale
12-08-2011 01:46 PM
by 74
Last post by 74
10-02-2012 07:29 PM
» Welcome to Pocket Bike Racing

The all round tyre USER review *pun intended*

Posted in Pocket Bikes Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 27-06-2007, 08:30 PM
Full Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mornington Peninsula Melbourne
Posts: 51
Brian has disabled reputation
No one can give a best pressure to run with, as everyone weighs and rides different, it comes down to experience/trial & error for each individual. Zhongyas are the best for cags and without a doubt pmt's are best for higher performance pocket bikes.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 27-06-2007, 08:56 PM
beans's Avatar
Full Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Atherton QLD
Posts: 1,063
beans is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to beans Send a message via Skype™ to beans
i lernt the hard way.Got a heap of hua-jian tyers cheap.Only lasts for 2x 10 lap races,Rating is 0 out of ten i reckon.Zyongs are the better ones for me so far.Havent tried any others.but will be soon.And yes pressure is a hard thing to work out
__________________
6 bikes.
-----------
one with RD top end kit.14/14 carby,carbon 3 stage fiber reeds,zx1 pipe
one with 55cc chainsaw top end, PBU pipe
ZX1 Taipan. PBU pipe,banshee engine.
Polini clutch bell .
2 X Banshees SHO
1 fitted with polini clutch,black widow triple stage reeds
19mm del rep carby,,billet head,billet reed cage, 6/76 gearing,sava tyres
1 fitted with 50cc BZM blata engine ,21mm walbro and BZM gold crank ( dangerous now:o)
1 blata SQ roller only
SRT Spooge Racing Team NTH Division
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 27-06-2007, 09:39 PM
Dreamah's Avatar
Full Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: South OZ
Posts: 536
Dreamah is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to Dreamah
As Danny said PMTS number 1....!!!

Ever since I first Rode on them I have neva and neva will look back..!!
Its amazing the comparison between italian & Chinese..
__________________
www.pocketracingbikes.biz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
Most of the cag headkits these days are already ported out of the chinese factory(probably by 12yo's).
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 27-06-2007, 10:16 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 901
gromet is an unknown quantity at this point
ive got zhonas and run 22psi im about 50 kg on my standard cag raced the same tyres for ages and just started to slide at the finalls so go zhona for chinese tyres
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 05-09-2007, 05:14 PM
Full Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Tasmania
Posts: 112
greeny has disabled reputation
tyre pressure

I have been reading your posts on tyre pressure with some interest. I race full size motorcycles as well as a bizeta powered polini rep. When talking to the 125 gp guys at the recent hartwell motorcycle championships i recieved the most valuable piece of advice.

Bassically the advice was as follows: "run tyres as soft as you can get away with." to determine this:
1. messure the tyre pressure when the tyre is cold
2. use tyre until the tyre is at full operating temperature (2-3 laps)
3. messure tyre pressure while tyre is hot
4. If the gain in tyre pressure is greater than 2 pounds the tyre pressure was too low. If the tyre is unable to gain 1 pound the tyre pressure is too high.

For a zongya slick, with me (65 kg) riding, optimum starting pressure was 14.5-16 psi, far lower than i expected. When i tried this, the bike was stable and cornered hard all the way to the edge of the tyre. It was such a success that i now use the method on my full size race bike, now running 13psi it has never handled better!

This results because more traction achieved is when the traction patch is of a greater area.
__________________
Trying to get more people to pocket bike events held around Tasmania
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 05-09-2007, 05:32 PM
Squeeby's Avatar
Full Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 918
Squeeby is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to Squeeby Send a message via Skype™ to Squeeby
Interesting I'll give it a try but I need an accurate tyre pressure gauge.
__________________
Archerfield Photos
140cc Minimotard
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 05-09-2007, 08:58 PM
Full Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Tasmania
Posts: 112
greeny has disabled reputation
tyre pressures

It is well worth a try. When i first got on the minimoto i thought running the tyres at 24-25psi would be the go. I concluded that pocket bikes were horrible things after the first day at a kart-track because it was nervous and chattery mid-corner which was un-nerving to say the least. Since lowering pressures my opinion has reversed.

These types of higher pressures may apply to an italian PMT with a soft compound, but i have found that chinese tyres only build temperature at relatively low pressures due to their harder compounds with relatively high hysterises.
__________________
Trying to get more people to pocket bike events held around Tasmania
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 05-09-2007, 11:34 PM
Stellerlicious's Avatar
Full Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: in ur rear vision mirror(mel)
Posts: 681
Stellerlicious is on a distinguished road
so a sava is a chinise tyre

is a vee rubber any diferent? as in chinise origin or euro, i havent realy heard mutch about savas and vee rubbers only that viper sells the vees and ozminimoto sells the savas...
__________________
Blata rep Watercooled
Triple stage reeds,19mm dell
Reed Spacer,Gloss white
Senior Stock Watercooled
South Morang & Port Mel
Cag in the making
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 08-09-2007, 10:59 PM
Jimbo Jones's Avatar
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Perth, WA
Posts: 23
Jimbo Jones is on a distinguished road
Hi,

I'm pretty new to pocket bikes, but it is good to read all the advice here, thanks for taking the time guys. Along with tyres comes wheels, so..

3 queries for you:

1. Does anyone ever worry about balancing pocket bike wheels?

2. For full size bikes, you can gain quite a handling advantage if you start to alter sprung vs unsprung mass, that is, the weight of the wheels etc vs the weight of the bike that is carried by the suspension. While most of our PB's dont have suspension, has anyone ever tried changing to lighter wheels, and what difference did it make? I guess that we don't have significant gyroscopic force, because my cag will change direction incredibly easily, so i guess that lighter wheels wont make a big diff, apart from simply reducing total mass.

3. 250cc bikes have narrower tyres than bigger bikes, the latter of which have vastly more power, and need the rubber on the road to stop wheel spin due to torque. But PB's seem to be more like 250cc bikes, in that you want to maintain high corner speed (unless you blokes are laying out fat black lines on your corner exits?). But when I look at PB tyres, they are all quite fat. Anyone ever tried thinner tyres and gone faster?

Cheers,

Jimbo Jones #33

PBA WA.
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 09-09-2007, 12:13 AM
Squeeby's Avatar
Full Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 918
Squeeby is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to Squeeby Send a message via Skype™ to Squeeby
Regarding thinner tyres some guys in Europe put fronts on the rear rim because it is narrower and allows them to turn in faster.
__________________
Archerfield Photos
140cc Minimotard
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Flat tyres? razor- Pocket Bikes Discussion 6 05-05-2007 10:38 PM
New 8 round series at archerfield guardian Riding Spots & Events 0 11-03-2007 02:42 PM
Beading Pumping The tyre!! 0LD DrUnK Pocket Bikes Discussion 4 05-07-2006 03:18 PM
TYRE PROBLEM, NEED HELP!!! cracker-1 Pocket Bikes Discussion 10 03-02-2006 07:41 PM
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE TO GET TYRE PAINT redracer Pocket Bikes Discussion 3 30-12-2005 11:22 PM

Minibikevids.com
Sep 16, 2006 - 7:55 AM - by pbradmin
pbradmin's Avatar This is a new Minibike videos website which was launched - www.Minibikevids.com



The site features a collection of mini bike, pit bike, and pocket bike videos and racing footage.
34 Replies | 18,127 Views
» Sponsored Links
» Sponsored Links
» Current Poll
whos bike you be diggin' this month yo?
Gromet - 40.00%
6 Votes
Ronin - 60.00%
9 Votes
Total Votes: 15
You may not vote on this poll.
» Online Users: 49
1 members and 48 guests
spanner
Most users ever online was 314, 24-12-2007 at 11:09 PM.