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Rules change for 2011

PART 1, Post too long for forum.

Hello,
These are rules for 2011, as confirmed by Brendan.
These rules may be okay for 2012, but will more than likely require some updateing by the sub-committee.

RULES OF MINIMOTO AND MINIMOTARD

15.18.2 Clothing -Classes other than Supers

CHANGED TO:

Remove word ‘Supers’ and change to ‘Elite Open classes’

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15.18.3 Clothing - Supers Class

CHANGED TO:

Remove word ‘Supers’ and change to ‘Elite Open Classes’

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15.19.3.2 Classes other than minimotard- Brakes
must be cable operated.

CHANGED TO:

All classes including minimotard and minimoto- Brakes may be cable or hydraulic operated.

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15.19.4.1 Additional to numbers on the machine, competitors must wear a high visibility vest with the number on the front and the rear.
Numbers must comply with GCR 11.5.

CHANGED TO:

Numbers must comply with GCR11.5

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15.20.1.2 Classes other than Minimotard and Maxi bikes:
a) Single cylinder,
b) Pull-start,
c) 2-stroke engines,
d) Less than 51cc.

CHANGED TO:

All classes other than Minimotard, Maxi bikes and Elite Open 40cc class
a) Single cylinder,
b) Pull-start,
c) 2-stroke engines,
d) Less than 51cc.
e) Open gearing

Elite Open 40cc Class 6
a) Single cylinder,
b) Pull-start,
c) 2-stroke engines,
d) Less than 41cc.
e) Open gearing

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REMOVE THE FOLLOWING

15.20.1.4 Production based and Junior Classes do not allow:
a) Any interior engine work that will benefit performance, including
porting and fl owing,
b) Abrasives to be used to clean interior
engine parts,
c) Machining of any description,
d) Replacement of standard engine
parts for performance parts.



15.20.2 Supers
15.20.2.1 Engine can have any modifications within
capacity restrictions.
15.20.3 Production Heavies
15.20.3.1 Minimum rider weight 80kg.
15. 20.3.2 Standard air/water cooled engines.
15. 20.3.3 No modifications may be made, other
than:
a) Main jet,
b) Spark plug,
c) Rubber inlet manifold,
d) Carbon reeds (not dual stage),
e) Air box open,
i) Any type made by same
manufacturer as the machine,
ii) With a proven part number on
parts list of country of origin,
iii) No one off exhaust systems
allowed,
iv) No systems not sold or made by
the manufacturer in the country
of origin,
g) Open gearing.
15.20.4 Production Lights
15.20.4.1 Maximum rider weight 80kg.
15.20.4.2 Standard air/water cooled engines.
15.20.4.3 No modifications may be made, other
than:
a) Main jet,
b) Spark plug,
c) Rubber inlet manifold,
d) Carbon reeds (not dual stage),
e) Air box open,
f) Exhaust
i) Any type made by same
manufacturer as the machine,
ii) With a proven part number on
parts list of country of origin,
iii) No one off exhaust systems
allowed,
iv) No systems not sold or made by
the manufacturer in the country
of origin,
g) Maximum gearing 66 teeth at rear.
15.20.5 4.2hp Seniors
15. 20.5.1 Minimum rider weight 50kg.
15. 20.5.2 4.2hp maximum air cooled mini or midi.
15. 20.5.3 No modifications may be made, other
than:
a) Main jet,
b) Spark plug,
c) Air box open,
d) Gearing for riders up to 75kg, 66
teeth rear,
e) Gearing for riders over 75kg, open.
15. 20.5.4 Standard exhaust.


CHANGED TO:

CLASS 1: BASIC CAG.
Seniors and juniors.

1.01 Capacity: Maximum 51cc
1.02 Crankcase: Standard air-cooled CAG only
1.03 Crankshaft: Standard half circle CAG only
1.04 Connecting rod & piston: Chinese made.
1.05 Seals: Bearings, Gaskets: Open
1.06 Head/Barrel: Standard CAG only, maximum two intake & one exhaust port without modification, must be cast only.
1.07 Coil: Standard CAG only
1.08 Timing key allowed.
1.09 Flywheel: Standard without modification
1.10 Spark Plug: Open
1.11 Clutch: Open.
1.12 Carburetor: Maximum 15mm bore
1.13 Air filter: Open
1.14 Reed block: Standard CAG only
1.15 Reeds: Material open
1.16 Exhaust system: Open
1.17 Tyres: Open.
1.18 Gear ratios: Open
1.19 Machining: Porting, Machining (including polishing) of Barrel/head, Crankcase, Crankshaft, Con-rod, Piston or flywheel is NOT permitted.
1.20 Non-programmable ignition systems must be used. No combustion enhancers such as NOS may be used and all bikes must be naturally aspirated.

CLASS 2: PRO CAG.
Seniors and juniors.

1.1 Capacity: Up to 51cc.
1.2 Crankcase: Standard aircooled cag only.
1.3 Crankshaft: Open.
1.4 Connecting rod & piston: Chinese made.
1.5 Seals: Bearings, Gaskets: Open.
1.6 Head/Barrel: Open.
1.7 Coil: Standard cag only.
1.8 Timing keyway allowed.
1.9 Flywheel: Open.
1.10 Spark Plug: Open.
1.11 Clutch: Open
1.12 Carburetor: Open.
1.13 Air filter: Open.
1.14 Reed block: Open.
1.15 Reeds: Material open.
1.16 Exhaust system: Open.
1.17 Tyres: Open.
1.18 Gear ratios: Open.
1.19 Chain: Open
1.20 Machining: Open.
1.21 Non-programmable ignition systems must be used. No combustion enhancers such as NOS may be used and all bikes must be naturally aspirated.

CLASS 3: ELITE AIRCOOLED.
Seniors and juniors.

3.1 Capacity: Maximum 51cc aircooled only.
3.2 Crankcase: Open
3.3 Crankshaft: Open.
3.4 Connecting rod & piston: Open
3.5 Seals, Bearings, Gaskets: Open.
3.6 Head/Barrel: Open.
3.7 Coil: Open.
3.8 Timing key: Open.
3.9 Flywheel: Open.
3.10 Spark Plug: Open.
3.11 Clutch: Open.
3.12 Clutch Bell: Open
3.13 Carburetor: Open.
3.14 Air filter: Open.
3.15 Reed block: Open.
3.16 Reeds: Material open.
3.17 Exhaust system: Open.
3.18 Tyres: Open.
3.19 Gear ratios: Open.
3.20 Machining: Open.
3.21 Non-programmable ignition systems must be used. No combustion enhancers such as NOS may be used and all bikes must be naturally aspirated

CLASS 4: BASIC CHINESE WATERCOOLED
Seniors and juniors.

4.1 Capacity: Maximum 51cc
4.2 Crankcase: Chinese
4.3 Crankshaft: Chinese
4.4 Connecting rod & piston: Chinese made.
4.5 Seals, Bearings, Gaskets: Open
4.6 Barrel / Head: Standard Chinese for that model
4.7 Coil: Standard Chinese
4.8 Timing key: Standard Chinese
4.9 Flywheel: Original Chinese
4.10 Spark Plug: Open
4.11 Clutch: Open
4.12 Carburetor: Open
4.13 Air filter: Open
4.14 Reed block: Standard Chinese, reed spacer accepted.
4.15 Reeds: Material open
4.16 Exhaust system: Chinese made, but can be modified to suit application. Stinger/Muffler open.
4.17 Tyres: Open
4.18 Gear ratios: Open
4.19 Machining: Porting, Machining (including polishing) of Barrel/head, Crankcase, Crankshaft, Con-rod, Piston or flywheel is NOT permitted.
4.20 Non-programmable ignition systems must be used. No combustion enhancers such as NOS may be used and all bikes must be naturally aspirated.

CLASS 5: PRO CHINESE WATERCOOLED
Seniors and juniors.

5.1 Capacity: Maximum 51cc
5.2 Crankcase: Chinese made
5.3 Crankshaft: Chinese made
5.4 Connecting rod & piston: Chinese made.
5.5 Seals, Bearings, Gaskets: Open
5.6 Barrel: Chinese made
5.7 Head: Open
5.8 Coil: Open
5.9 Timing key: Open
5.10 Flywheel: Open
5.11 Spark Plug: Open
5.12 Clutch: Open
5.13 Carburetor: Open
5.14 Air filter: Open
5.15 Reed block: Open
5.16 Reed Material: open
5.17 Exhaust system: Open
5.18 Tyres: Open
5.19 Gear ratios: Open
5.20 Machining: Open
5.21 Non-programmable ignition systems must be used. No combustion enhancers such as NOS may be used and all bikes must be naturally aspirated.

CLASS 6: ELITE OPEN 40CC
Seniors and juniors.

6.1 May be air or watercooled.
6.2 Origin open, (may be Chinese or European made).
6.3 Capacity: Maximum 40cc
6.4 Crankcase: Open
6.5 Crankshaft: Open, maximum 39.2mm stroke.
6.6 Connecting rod & piston: Open
6.7 Seals, Bearings, Gaskets: Open.
6.8 Head/Barrel: Open.
6.9 Coil: Open.
6.10 Timing key: Open.
6.11 Flywheel: Open.
6.12 Spark Plug: Open.
6.13 Clutch: Open.
6.14 Clutch Bell: Open
6.15 Carburetor: Maximum 14mm. Must be marked as 14mm or less by OEM, or Carburetor must be sized before commencement of racing by the Clerk Of Coarse, then marked and sealed.
6.16 Air filter: Open.
6.17 Reed block: Open.
6.18 Reeds: Material open.
6.19 Exhaust system: Open.
6.20 Tyres: Open.
6.21 Gear ratios: Open.
6.22 Chain: Open
6.23 Machining: Open.
6.24 Non-programmable ignition systems must be used. No combustion enhancers such as NOS may be used and all bikes must be naturally aspirated


CLASS 7: ELITE OPEN 50CC
Seniors and juniors.

7.1 May be air or watercooled.
7.2 Origin open, (may be Chinese or European made).
7.3 Capacity: Maximum 51cc
7.4 Crankcase: Open
7.5 Crankshaft: Open.
7.6 Connecting rod & piston: Open
7.7 Seals, Bearings, Gaskets: Open.
7.8 Head/Barrel: Open.
7.9 Coil: Open.
7.10 Timing key: Open.
7.11 Flywheel: Open.
7.12 Spark Plug: Open.
7.13 Clutch: Open.
7.14 Clutch Bell: Open
7.15 Carburetor: Open.
7.16 Air filter: Open.
7.17 Reed block: Open.
7.18 Reeds: Material open.
7.19 Exhaust system: Open.
7.20 Tyres: Open.
7.21 Gear ratios: Open.
7.22 Chain: Open
7.23 Machining: Open.
7.24 Non-programmable ignition systems must be used. No combustion enhancers such as NOS may be used and all bikes must be naturally aspirated
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Last edited by Dazza; 20-12-2010 at 01:16 PM. Reason: I have been informed these are the correct rules for 2011
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Part 2:


CLASS 8: MAXI BIKES
Seniors and juniors.

8.1 Capacity: Up to 51 cc two stroke or up to 110cc four stroke aircooled.
8.2 Motor: Chinese
8.3 Maximum 12’ wheels.
8.4 Gear box: CVT or locked in one gear no manual changing of gears.
8.5 All other parts open.
8.6 Tyres: Open
8.7 No combustion enhancers such as NOS


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REMOVE THE BELOW

2009 MANUAL OF MOTORCYCLE SPORT
133
i) Any type made by same
manufacturer as the machine,
ii) With a proven part number on
parts list of country of origin,
iii) No one off exhaust systems
allowed,
iv) No systems not sold or made by
the manufacturer in the country
of origin,
g) Open gearing.
15.20.4 Production Lights
15.20.4.1 Maximum rider weight 80kg.
15.20.4.2 Standard air/water cooled engines.
15.20.4.3 No modifications may be made, other
than:
a) Main jet,
b) Spark plug,
c) Rubber inlet manifold,
d) Carbon reeds (not dual stage),
e) Air box open,
f) Exhaust
i) Any type made by same
manufacturer as the machine,
ii) With a proven part number on
parts list of country of origin,
iii) No one off exhaust systems
allowed,
iv) No systems not sold or made by
the manufacturer in the country
of origin,
g) Maximum gearing 66 teeth at rear.
15.20.5 4.2hp Seniors
15. 20.5.1 Minimum rider weight 50kg.
15. 20.5.2 4.2hp maximum air cooled mini or midi.
15. 20.5.3 No modifications may be made, other
than:
a) Main jet,
b) Spark plug,
c) Air box open,
d) Gearing for riders up to 75kg, 66
teeth rear,
e) Gearing for riders over 75kg, open.
15. 20.5.4 Standard exhaust.



15. 20.6 Minimotard Seniors
15. 20.6.1 4-stroke up to 160cc (auto or manual)
15. 20.7 Juniors
15. 20.7.1 Ages 9 to under 13 years.
15. 20.7.2 Junior riders (under 16 years) cannot
compete with Senior riders.
15.20.7.3 4.2 hp air-cooled mini only.
15.20.7.4 No modifications may be made, other than:
a) Main jet,
b) Spark plug,
c) Air box open,
d) Open gearing.
15.20.7.5 Standard exhaust only.
15.20.8 Minimotard Juniors
15. 20.8.1 Ages 9 to under 13 years, 4-stroke 125cc
(auto or manual).
15.20.8.2 Ages 13 to under 16 years, 4-stroke up to
140cc (auto or manual)



Add the following:


Engine: Must be horizontal design
Gear box: Gear box maybe used, maximum four speed.
Maximum wheel base: 1250mm
Frames: To be open cradle construction.

And remove the following:

15.20.7.3 4.2 hp air-cooled mini only.
15.20.7.4 No modifications may be made, other than:
a) Main jet,
b) Spark plug,
c) Air box open,
d) Open gearing.
15.20.7.5 Standard exhaust only.
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The proposed rule changes coming from a motards view look to be along the right track.
Just include these changes into the SR's for Phillip Island if you didn't get them to MA for the 2011 season.
I just can't wait to get my entry in!
Good work!

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this is what i think elite should read




Supers could be changed to Elite heavy
Engine can have any modifications within
capacity restrictions.
Production Heavies
Minimum rider weight 80kg.
air/water cooled engines.



Elite Light
Maximum rider weight 79kg.
air/water cooled engines.
Engine can have any modifications within
capacity restrictions.
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PART 1, Post too long for forum.
Hello,
These are the suggested rule changes to the 2011 MA rules booklet, but never made it in due to a MA error.
These rules may be okay for 2012, but will more than likely require some updateing by the sub-committee.
Hey darren, so these rules & classes wont have anything to do with philip island... & will we be using what is currently in the MA booklet...?

Oi Bollo...Im 79.5 kg... Is there a class for me..? lol

79-80kg... Mediums.... .. jk
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Hey Bollo,
What do you think of the gearing restrictions to suit weight?? Could be a good way of having a level playing field.
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Hey Bollo,
What do you think of the gearing restrictions to suit weight?? Could be a good way of having a level playing field.
can't see it working Ringo because the heavier you are the more teeth you need to get off the line & the corners so if a lighter rider has say 66 teeth then they are still close of faster then the heavy guys & have way more top end
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I have updated the first post, as Brendan has informed me the above rules do come into play for 2011.
But the PI event rules are as stated in another post.
Call Brendan if you are unclear on the wording of either set of rules.
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why does it need to say 2 stroke engines ? minimoto companies produce 2t & 4t engines for these bike & if you are going to approach the main motorcycling body in Australia then you need to have the rules correct & by clearly stating 2 stroke engines for minimoto then this is not correct
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What is the cc limit on 4T in europe?
80cc??
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