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11-02-2010, 02:04 AM
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Hey everyone!
Before I ask my question I wanna briefly introduce myself to you all. I'm the owner of the first and only Mini Moto Race Track in Pakistan. I've designed a mini moto track which will be up and running in a few weeks. Since this is the first of its kind in my country, no one here owns any mini motos. So I've purchased some from China for people to ride them at the track. Obviously, the Chinese bikes are crap. Got them for only US $85 a piece so you can imagine what they must be like.
Now here's my issue. Pocket bikes like the kind you guys ride come some around US $5,000 and above. Given our HUGE purchasing power disparity, that's way out of my league considering I'll be charging somewhere around AUS $4 per 10 minute ride.
So, after doing some brief research, I've found out that a Cag Daytona is the cheapest form of a "good" mini moto that I can buy given that they come for around US$200 or so.
Now, what I really wanna know is, where are these bikes manufactured and by what company? Because if it's manufactured in China or somewhere in Asia, it'd be ridiculous for me to be purchasing it from the States or Australia and paying an arm and a leg on freight charges while I can get it from the direct source and save the freight cost.
I'd really appreciate any and all input you guys have on this matter as I'm about to open the track to public and I know the current bikes I have won't even last 2 months.
Cheers in advance.
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11-02-2010, 07:20 AM
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Have a look at a Blata 2.5... it looks pretty much identical to a cag, but it's not made in China. Locally they're about 58700 Pakistan Rupee (except in NZD!), so only a fifth of the ones you've been looking at. Not a rocket ship, but probably just right for a hire bike (air cooled, nothing to break!). Darren at OzMiniMoto is the man to contact.
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11-02-2010, 12:01 PM
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Hey mate,
Cant help you with a supplier but some pictures of your track would be nice!!!
Keep spreading the word on the best motor sport ever!!
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11-02-2010, 09:34 PM
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@ imdying:
Cheers mate for the useful info. I know about the Blata 2.5 but that's also quite expensive for the range I'm looking at. It's not that I'm a miser and saving money on buying a mini moto but from a business prospective it's not quite feasible unless I hike up the rates that I'll be charging my customers. Economic barrier. However, if you know anything about the Cags, which seem to be the cheapest and most effective ones I've researched so far, do send something my way.
@ringo
The track is in its construction phase right now. It's a 360 meter length 4 meter width track with a 40 meter length pitlane 8 feet wide. I've attached a picture of the current development so far and conceptualized design from the architect. Do give me any inputs on the track design. Much appreciated.
@Dazza
Will look into the Blata Hobby buddy. Cheers.
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11-02-2010, 10:12 PM
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hey what the surface of your track made from
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11-02-2010, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by khalifs @ringo
The track is in its construction phase right now. It's a 360 meter length 4 meter width track with a 40 meter length pitlane 8 feet wide. I've attached a picture of the current development so far and conceptualized design from the architect. Do give me any inputs on the track design. Much appreciated. | The only thing I can say about tracks I've enjoyed is make sure the corners onto and off the straight are mighty fast ones, very enjoyable. If you have a fast corner at the end of the straight it soon sorts out the men from the boys.
Also be sure to incorporate a bit of gradient, uphills and down hills, blind apexes are always fun.
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12-02-2010, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by khalifs @ imdying:
Cheers mate for the useful info. I know about the Blata 2.5 but that's also quite expensive for the range I'm looking at. It's not that I'm a miser and saving money on buying a mini moto but from a business prospective it's not quite feasible unless I hike up the rates that I'll be charging my customers. Economic barrier. However, if you know anything about the Cags, which seem to be the cheapest and most effective ones I've researched so far, do send something my way. | Yup, I understand about the need to turn a profit. Do consider this though:
- Chinese bikes need a few hours maintenance for every hour you ride them
- Some of the bits on a Chinese bike break before you even ride them
- Some of the bits on a Chinese bike simply don't work at all
- Most of the bits on a Chinese bike are of worse than poor quality and will wear out very quickly
I think you might find that lesser bikes are a false economy in your situation. The Chinese bikes are fine if you have plenty of time to muck around with them and enjoy that sort of thing (although after 6 months you'll have had enough of them no matter how much you enjoy tinkering).
/edit: Personally, if I was going to start a ride on business, I would build new fairings from kevlar fibreglass, and make them strong enough to essentially be a crash cage for the bike. They'd add a hundred bucks to the price of each bike, but would pay for themselves many times over... in much the same way as hire karts have bumpers the whole way round the kart to save them from dicks using them as bumper cars.
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12-02-2010, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by imdying /edit: Personally, if I was going to start a ride on business, I would build new fairings from kevlar fibreglass, and make them strong enough to essentially be a crash cage for the bike. They'd add a hundred bucks to the price of each bike, but would pay for themselves many times over... in much the same way as hire karts have bumpers the whole way round the kart to save them from dicks using them as bumper cars. |
& put SLIDERS on them all!! then it wont even damage the fairings...!!
morty
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