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Old 29-03-2007, 11:55 PM
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Av gas is great but Does Shorten the life of components on your bike..

What Exactly are you running it in mate?
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Most of the cag headkits these days are already ported out of the chinese factory(probably by 12yo's).
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Ive been told not to run anything past 100 octane in chinese engines as they are easier to melt..... truth? no idea....


As for the higher octane debate.... nobody has yet mentioned the fact that: with the increase in power from running higher octane, you can use less throttle to achieve the same power output you would get from using lower octane. Using less throttle results in using less fuel, which means your tank will last longer. The only time you get better milage is when using higher octane at cruising speeds, as you can hold the throttle at a lower percentage for the required speed.

But since we're racing, milage does not really apply.
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i always run my engine 25:1 maybe if im racing i might change it to 30:1, but you never run an engine at 50:1 not unless you want to replace your engine after the race and are racing for a billion dollars!
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Ive been told not to run anything past 100 octane in chinese engines as they are easier to melt..... truth? no idea....


As for the higher octane debate.... nobody has yet mentioned the fact that: with the increase in power from running higher octane, you can use less throttle to achieve the same power output you would get from using lower octane. Using less throttle results in using less fuel, which means your tank will last longer. The only time you get better milage is when using higher octane at cruising speeds, as you can hold the throttle at a lower percentage for the required speed.

But since we're racing, milage does not really apply.
All engines love high octane, even the chinise! you would only use low octane in a bike that r 100 years old!
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Ive been told not to run anything past 100 octane in chinese engines as they are easier to melt..... truth? no idea....
I was running straight 103 elf race fuel in my near stock cag engine for a few months and didnt melt anything
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Fuel & Oil Mixture For PB's!!

Higher Octane....burns faster...? Is it not that the higher octane 'slows' the combustion reaction of fuel in higher compression engines to prevent pre-detenation? Im not a pyrotechnical engineer, but Im going to question an engineer on that previous remark.

A note on break in: If your serious with your bike, or plan to be more serious later on, buy a compression gauge. You will absolutely suprise yourself. Supposing your carb is actually adjusted correctly, for the first time, mix your fuel ratio fat on oil....nearer to the 30:1. Run the bike at idle with a few rips of throttle at times to get the engine and coolant up to hot/warm. Shut off engine. Screw in the compression gauge. Pull cord/starter and take the gauge reading. Continue to let the bike cool completely. Restart this process over and over until you notice the gain in compression readings start to lessen. It took my bike a week and a half. There is physically a noticable difference even when you pull the cord to start it now that its broken in completely!

Additionally, on my C2 (45.3cc cylinder/head) I run a custom made high compression head dome approximated at 15.8:1 compression. I use VP Fuel's VP110 with 3-5% Toluene and use Motul's synthetic at 30:1. Note: Toluene is actually flammable/combustible and has a shelf octane of 114 alone.

Someone asked about some lights on the fairing of the red X2 to go on thier...Cag was it? Here in the states, each light costs usually no more than $12 and the fairing that they bolt into costs no more than $45 at most dealers/sites. It will not be a direct bolt on for your bike. The X1/X2 bike seems exclusive when it comes to parts. The X2 has an on board 12V battery that power the headlights and the speedo light.


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Yikes!!!

KillerMK3....NO, that plate or panel your refering to that says 'oil'...'100cc'...or something? No sire, unless I did not understand your question, its a 2-stroke engine, you mix your oil with your fuel. Inside that case, behind that panel is grease and gears....gears that can be changed for more speed... Speed is good!

Oh, and since your bike has a battery, you can nicely stuff some short (8 to 12 inch) neon tube lighting up into the fairing panels. My oldest daughter's X2 bike looks like a vertical UFO at night.
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hey

my dad use to be a mower machanic use to fix the very few pocket bike

but the best thing is to put 25:1 OR 30:1 is best way to go

thanks

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30:1 is as far as you need to go!
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hey pocket wog, were are you mate if your in the southern part of SA i can get as much avgas as you want at not much more then youd pay for BP ultimate 98

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