ATTENTION: Australian Titles 2010 Information / Update

MortysMiniMotos · #11 (**permalink**) 16-02-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazza

The idea of the extra classes was because you (and others) said that we required standard classes in the titles.
So we thought , 'Lets give the riders what they asked for'!!

Now you are saying you don't want them???

Please remember you can still run the bikes you have, as the bikes you have are still running in the same classes as before, you will not have to modify them in anyway to suit the previous classes.

If your bike can't run 10 laps, maybe it isn't good enough to run 5 laps, as most Euro bikes should be able to run at least the 10 laps without problem.
And we reduced the laps for the cags to 5 laps so it wouldn't be too much for the bikes.

i think mortys problem is in having to build a std w/c to defend his title with under 3 weeks notice since he went and pro'd it so he could keep racing it...

lol....reducing cags to 5 laps so its not too much for the bikes.... whats going on with the cags down south?

herbi40 · #12 (**permalink**) 16-02-2010, 06:09 PM

As per my phone call this afternoon I have explained to both Dazza's that i feel we should be running the format from PRO MOTO that has been available for app 3mths. The reason being us & a few people have set bikes up to run under their criteria thus not leaving enough time to rebuild an extra 2 new bikes for both chinese catt. If we run under the promoto rules this year & resort to our own classes next year it would give everyone enough time to adjust. Combining clases so as to make a race will only mean that you cant defend both or have a chance to win both. This is only an idea but it is a long way to go to have your fate handed to you changed on the day because of a stroke of a pen. Bill

Dazza · #13 (**permalink**) 16-02-2010, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MortysMiniMotos

i think mortys problem is in having to build a std w/c to defend his title with under 3 weeks notice since he went and pro'd it so he could keep racing it...

lol....reducing cags to 5 laps so its not too much for the bikes.... whats going on with the cags down south?

Cags are only doing 5 laps anyway, so all is good.
We hope to have a few cags from Vic and SA anyway, but if the QLDers aren't up for it, well, it's their loss. lol

74 · #14 (**permalink**) 16-02-2010, 09:51 PM

come on guys now your winging about having to build a standard engine in 3 weeks haha if there standard i fail to see how anymore then a few hours in needed at most
& morty your euro will do way more then 10 laps mate, i have ran my bikes for more then 10 laps on many occasion's

MortysMiniMotos · #15 (**permalink**) 17-02-2010, 12:01 AM

standard engines x 5 to be exact. plus sorting out bikes for them to go in.........

not exactly what the budget and time was asking for 2 days ago...................

oh and 74....std doesnt concern you yeah? soo..... shuuuussshh

and at the end of the day......these standard classes that you guys whinged about having lack of riders wont exactly see a boost in numbers seeing how numerous std riders were forced to move up or not attend....

74 · #16 (**permalink**) 17-02-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MortysMiniMotos

standard engines x 5 to be exact. plus sorting out bikes for them to go in.........

not exactly what the budget and time was asking for 2 days ago...................

oh and 74....std doesnt concern you yeah? soo..... shuuuussshh

and at the end of the day......these standard classes that you guys whinged about having lack of riders wont exactly see a boost in numbers seeing how numerous std riders were forced to move up or not attend....

boo hoo i want to know how the hell do you ride 5 bikes at once ????

MortysMiniMotos · #17 (**permalink**) 17-02-2010, 12:14 AM

bollo bollo bollo

YOU being an engine builder....and possibly an engine builder for team mates..... you should know how it works by now....

but you probably still dont so i will tell you.

there is 4 of us in our team.

all 4 of us ride std a/c, w/c or both.

liam is jnr std a/c #1and jnr w/c std #1
morty is snr w/c std #1

and the std bikes when setup correctly go nearly as hard as the best pro's out there...so yeah...it does take a bit more than a few hours sometimes to get the correct setup......something else i wouldve thought an engine builder like yourself would know

oh and yes the bikes are std...they get pulled down for 'show an tell' at the end of the rounds.

imdying · #18 (**permalink**) 17-02-2010, 01:02 PM

Excuse my ignorance, but what's wrong with running a Euro flat out for 10 laps? They're only 400-600 metre laps right? Is it a fuel consumption issue? As far as not wanting to rape the bike goes, what else is it good for? How is running it for 10 laps raping it? Do highly tuned Euro bikes generally have inadequate cooling systems or something like that? Do the tyres start to go off after 5 laps and begin to chew out quickly?

Seriously, why the concern?

And what does standard mean to you guys? No replacement parts, just strip and rebuild with love and care?

ringo · #19 (**permalink**) 17-02-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by imdying

Excuse my ignorance, but what's wrong with running a Euro flat out for 10 laps? They're only 400-600 metre laps right? Is it a fuel consumption issue? As far as not wanting to rape the bike goes, what else is it good for? How is running it for 10 laps raping it? Do highly tuned Euro bikes generally have inadequate cooling systems or something like that? Do the tyres start to go off after 5 laps and begin to chew out quickly?

Seriously, why the concern?

And what does standard mean to you guys? No replacement parts, just strip and rebuild with love and care?

Mate, there's nothing better than riding an minimoto on tyres that are overheating. All of my cags, in various states of tune, have done 30 minute sessions on 40 degree days, so I'm sort of at a loss to understand too!!! I'm sure that cags are more suseptible to breakdown on long running than euro water cooled bikes with massive radiators.

Maybe the MMM boys are too "unfit" to do 10 laps at "race pace" LOL

To your second point I think morty's version of standard and the factories version of standard are two completely different things **cough, grindy, grindy, cough**

morty · #20 (**permalink**) 17-02-2010, 02:15 PM

74... I'm sure it was you, who at the start of the year, said 'YOU' didn't have enough time to get a chinese anything ready for this years titles... but maybe next year.. Hey, If you can't even do it yourself???
but I think graeme sorted ya out anywayz!!

Imdying, Ringo... We'v won the last 2 enduros @ Archerfield.. Snr & Jnr... We have more Aussie titles than any other team... I dont think theres any worries about the bikes or riders, boys!
The tracks 750 metres I thought, I maybe wrong...
When you boys ride more than '1' class, you will understand..!! It's more than just 10 laps, when you ride more than '1' class...

In General.. And we had excepted the rules as they were, set our bikes up, paid more money for bits to pro them, & all of a sudden, There's only 2 weeks to change everything back to the way they were... minus the huge ports in the barrels..!!! You can't change the race format 2 weeks out from the event.. If someone was going to take it on, it should'v been run the way everyone understood it to be being run!

I did say that I thought there should be Standard classes at the titles, but I was talking in general...
I always said, there should be Standard classes included in the titles, & some said it should have been left at club level...
Everyone who is going to warrnambool, would'v had everything sorted by now!
I think its unfair to the people who weren't going because of this, and people who would've rode standards but have set up their bikes to the rules for this series, so as not to be disadvantaged..!
I just can't wait for it to be over!!

Unfit... if thats what you call riding more classes, takin home more silverware.. then yes!

And you're all welcome to come to the 'Show & Tell'... as graeme pointed out...LOL, when all the hard work is ripped apart... You euro boys, just rock up, wipe the bike over, look at your clutch, & race it...
FYI....The hard works in the other classes!!!!! Try gettin your cag round WCR in 35 secs.. thats bloody hard..!!

IT SEEMS YOU HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT OUTLOOK ON THINGS WHEN YOU ONLY RIDE '1' CLASS!!!!

morty

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