yeah been reading that link just now. wanneroo sounds like a sh*t fight! all you guys sound like northern suburbs boys which is no problem to me :wink: but are there any proper meets at the go-kart track in cockburn anymore? it's a great little circuit! anyways i'll be back in perth on the 17th of october. won't have a bike for a couple more months, but i'll come up, introduce myself and discuss some ideas.